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- From: mdaymon@rainbow.rmii.com (Maxwell Daymon)
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- Subject: Re: A4000 HD Drive, FORGET IT!
- Date: 12 Jan 1996 06:00:34 GMT
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- Jason S Birch (jasonb@cs.uwa.edu.au) wrote:
- : mdaymon@rainbow.rmii.com (Maxwell Daymon) writes:
- : >can do NOTHING with. At least I could use a Zip disk. Non-reusability is
- : >a major drawback both to the users and producers.
-
- : Yes, but this is a non-issue from the distributors point of view. They
- : pay, say, $5 for a Zip disk, or $1 for a CDROM - for a game that cost
- : $35, I would imagine that's significant.
-
- I haven't seen it. Games that came on ten 3.5" floppies that now come on
- CD-ROM are no cheaper in my experience. In fact, prices seem to have gone
- up with CD-ROM. Media doesn't seem to affect these people.
-
- (And I'm not saying ALL things should come on Zip - just that it should
- be an available standard.)
-
- : Agreed. I didn't consider floppies a reasonable medium. I think CDROMs
- : are more attractive for software distribution, and Zips more useful for
- : everything else. Floppy disks don't really come into the picture.
-
- That's what I envision ultimately: a system that comes with a Zip as
- minimum (low end), Zip+CDROM (low to medium), Zip+HD+CDROM (medium to
- high). All machines of course have a standard floppy connector, but the
- cost of the floppy is not added to the machine unless a person
- specifically wants it for archaic purposes.
-
- I think that data portability must exist at all levels. A CD-ROM game
- console with a hard drive cache just doesn't do it for me, and I'm not
- impressed in the least with floppies.
-
- : If the software game is anything like the hardware game, a $4
-
- I don't think it's directly comparable.
-
- : difference in the cost to distributors will become a much greater than
- : $4 cost to users. Of course, for the reasons you give, users might be
-
- Yet software prices seem unaffected by the move between 5.25", 3.5", DD,
- HD, and CD-ROM. The big question here is will Iomega let others make the
- disks. I have reason to believe they will.
-
- : copy of in, what, 30 seconds? Given it's a SCSI device, I don't think
- : any of their favourite annoy-the-hell-out-of-users-trackloader-scheme
- : copy protection methods would be viable. If it's in the order of 100M,
- : or so, then the cost of the Zip disk (either 100M or multiple 25M)
- : becomes high enough that the user may as well have forked out the $35
- : for the original. Unfortunately, the cost of the Zip disk(s) now becomes
- : a *big* part of the equation for the distributor, whereas the CDROM is
- : still only $1.
-
- I agree that it's an issue, but worth consideration. The Zip is a good
- alternative. (The DynoMO, BTW, is $450 for just the drive - unreasonable
- as a floppy replacement. The media cost/meg also does not surpass the Zip
- or EZ enough to justify the price of the drive)
-
- : I was basing it on the former, but was assuming the media cost (and
- : ease - as I said, duplicating CDROMs is fairly painless in large
- : numbers, plus there are many places now that will do it) would be a
-
- True, but there's always that risk. Imagine is Fred Fish had to start
- from ground zero with CD-ROM. Being able to copy on a per unit demand
- basis for both shareware and freeware authors would be nice, as would the
- speed of the Zip drive for all.
-
- : significant factor for distributors, yes. From a consumer's point of
- : view, I agree, a bundled Zip would definately be the way to go. The
- : question is whether the game companies would go for it.
-
- Punch them all in the nose if they don't.
-